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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: THUMBSuP. on December 26, 2012, 06:48 am
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... interested.
/thumbs
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I haven't, but I've noticed all his 1 oz weed listings have been reduced to 15BC.
Also he requires FE on all orders.
If you look at his recent feedback it is now full of FEs.
I personally am refraining from ordering from him right now although don't take my word for it he might pull through on all orders.
Buyer discretion is advised in this situation.
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I haven't, but I've noticed all his 1 oz weed listings have been reduced to 15BC.
Also he requires FE on all orders.
If you look at his recent feedback it is now full of FEs.
I personally am refraining from ordering from him right now although don't take my word for it he might pull through on all orders.
Buyer discretion is advised in this situation.
aye.
he is very persistent to make some orders as well..
and there was a suspicious "shill account" "GrowHelp" posting in his review Thread..
and he claims not to be shill but he said "Merry Crimbo!"
same thing phd1 said to me..
and there are a few people who have received lottery samples.. >_>
idk.. i want to order so bad..
but uhhh fuck. lol. no FE sir.
worked too hard on these stats.
not to mention they ship to everywhere but NOT Domestic..
lol.
/thumbs
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You can FE on everything esp, origin is the Netherlands.
Bullshit on this vendor.
Don't forget European cannabis is "all sprayed", rofl!
X)
nomad
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You can FE on everything esp, origin is the Netherlands.
Bullshit on this vendor.
Don't forget European cannabis is "all sprayed", rofl!
X)
nomad
lol, fuzz that noise Nomad!
lol.. good points though.
i've learned my lesson(s) from FE.. >.<
they are very persistent to make you order.. and are bitches.
shit happens! pew pew.
not to this pair of thumbs... sticking way up!
and i wouldn't buy International BUDS ever... lol.
/thumbs
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You can FE on everything esp, origin is the Netherlands.
Bullshit on this vendor.
Don't forget European cannabis is "all sprayed", rofl!
X)
nomad
lol, fuzz that noise Nomad!
lol.. good points though.
i've learned my lesson(s) from FE.. >.<
they are very persistent to make you order.. and are bitches.
shit happens! pew pew.
not to this pair of thumbs... sticking way up!
and i wouldn't buy International BUDS ever... lol.
/thumbs
lolthumbs
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/e31c42051a
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96 finalized transactions.
79 pieces of feedback.
The 78th oldest piece of feedback: 5 of 5 FE as requested 13 days
This tells us that phd1 forced people to FE even when it goes against the rules. Yay! How do we know that? Well, clearly he never hit the "35 transactions" requirement before requiring that person to FE. Worse yet, his oldest piece of feedback is 19 days old. FE also isn't allowed with under 1 month of actual vending(length of account-ownership doesn't matter, I believe)...
Mind you, I can only see what is displayed on his page... but it does look like he has broken the rules.
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You can FE on everything esp, origin is the Netherlands.
Bullshit on this vendor.
Don't forget European cannabis is "all sprayed", rofl!
X)
nomad
lol, fuzz that noise Nomad!
lol.. good points though.
i've learned my lesson(s) from FE.. >.<
they are very persistent to make you order.. and are bitches.
shit happens! pew pew.
not to this pair of thumbs... sticking way up!
and i wouldn't buy International BUDS ever... lol.
/thumbs
lolthumbs
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/e31c42051a
lolinorite??
i messaged him asking what 30btc would get me..
and there you go.
a custom listing, lol.
then he pressured me to buy... and i came here.
no fe, no, fu!
/thumbs
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To be honest, it looks pretty bad (aka too good to be true)
1. He has pictures of the ware, but only the ware, no silkroad sign, no date and no username - so they pics could come from everywhere. If he's a legit seller, he should add real SR-pictures.
2. Why the fuck does he cancel orders from Netherlands? It's like he wants to heighten the chance, that the package doesn't get through. It would be way more suspicious if letters within NL wouldn't arrive, no? He shouldn't care where the money comes from, right?
3. He wants a costums letter to give out a refund ( Refund on FE; yeeeeah right) - I've lost enough weed in the mail and never got a customs letter. Why should I think that I'll get a letter now? and I'm not fond of giving 28g away because I don't get a customs letter with it.
4. The prices are just way too good. 5€ for Super Silver Haze AAA+ when I have to pay 15€ for White Widow within Germany? Looks suspicious.
5. He threats user to rate him 5/5 (so the scam is more efficient) or they will get on a blacklist and what shit. What seller threats theír users right in the intro? Not good imho.
6. Those "introductory prices" will be gone in like 48 hours, that should be the time when the good or bad ratings come in.
I've just made an 28g order before reading his T&C but I guess I'm gonna cancel it. Definitively not gonna Finalize Early.
Why is it that I can only see 10 ratings on his mainpage, when he has made like 100 transactions?
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aaand here it starts
in the official PHD1 thread ( http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=91233.30 )
user technopium ( Posts: 249 Karma: +16/-5 ) writes
Too many FE's with a new account and not many orders received. This smells like a SCAM. New peeps, ALWAYS STAY IN ESCROW. Most of US had to learn the hard way. His #4 heroin picture is a Cropped picture from google.
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I tried to get some words out of him WHY he does things like he does, didn't work though:
ME: keep in mind that it's against silkroad rules to let customers finalize early when you're a new seller
now please cancel my order,
PHD1: we are no longer considered a new seller. check the rules. we meet all rules!!!
we see you writing BS about us on the forum. we cancelled your order. dont lie please to others.
BTW do you know a lot of users have google pictures. check out marijuanausmymuse mdma pictures? or but that flys right.
This is place so far has given us nothing but paranoia and fucking shit. Some of you are very difficult people to work with.
Me: To be honest, I almost shat my pants because of the cheap, super looking weed in different strains - the best thing that could happen on Silkroad right now - but how realistic is that? I really would have loved to order that stuff, but I'd rather pay 1-2€ more than not to get a package at all.
because many of us have lost good amounts of money because of things like this.
I'm not talking shit, I'm talking things I see:
1. Take real pictures with your username, date and maybe "SR" or "silkroad" on a paper next to the ware, or the ware lying on it
2. Stop that finalizing early , we're here for the escrow. No one needs FE , SR is not going down within the next days.
3. why can't I find ONE buyer that has received one of your 28g packages, even though there are FE ratings older than ten days?
4. why don't you ship to NL? it looks suspicious
All in all, you have met too many "suspicious" points for it to become a standard order
See it the other way:
there's a seller who sells 5€ AAA+ weed, when it's real hard to get AA weed for 10€,
I can't find a user who has received an amount larger than 4g of yours,
You want everyone to finalize early by everybody, which in total is a red sign for everyone who ever has been scammed on the road.
I really would have loved to order that stuff, but I'd rather pay 1-2€ more than not to get a package at all.
We've seen to many scammers and too many users getting scammed in this, so this isn't paranoia - it's business as usual. If you would have put down that Finalize Early there wouldn't be any rumors but starting with FE, adding with no proof pictures made by you, not shipping to NL and no real good reviews except "FE; gonna update" it looks veeery bad.
What's your view of this?
PHD1: fair enough. as you wish. too long to even read your message. good luck.
its christmas and NYE man. all 28g+ orders we sent out at earliest on thursday 20th. give us a fucking break kid!
all we ask is you stop spreading BS without a just cause.
Me: You don't seem to want a good reputation besides a 100/100 score made mostly out of FE
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too long to read your messge lol? would never buy from someone too lazy to read a 3 paragraph note
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gets even better
We have a good rep. It says 100. Wait for feedback to be updated. Stop spreading paranoia.
Your full of BS. Good luck. Your not welcome here again though.
yeah, having 100 made out of only FE with people telling to rate him 5/5 is such a good reputation. That's why everyone in this forum is wondering if he's legit.
Oh, and I am not welcome anymore? Because I try to clear up rumors? oh so bad.
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gets even better
We have a good rep. It says 100. Wait for feedback to be updated. Stop spreading paranoia.
Your full of BS. Good luck. Your not welcome here again though.
yeah, having 100 made out of only FE with people telling to rate him 5/5 is such a good reputation. That's why everyone in this forum is wondering if he's legit.
Oh, and I am not welcome anymore? Because I try to clear up rumors? oh so bad.
lol.
yah.
he is a tard..
i showed him my buyer stats and said i worked too hard to just "FE"..
and he said i can't be treated differently than everyone else...
i am not getting scammed "like everyone else".
/thumbs
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I ordered from him a while ago, my order was "shipped" Dec. 12th and I was the second person to FE. I haven't recieved mine yet but anything not domestic takes god dam forever.. I've actually been waiting 5 weeks so far for an ebay package from the US, what a joke.
Anyways, you can see from Phd's feedback that his orders are definitely starting to arrive so I am not worried about it at all.
I'll definitely update when I get the oil and let you guys know how it is.
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Not sure if you'd call me reputable yet but you know me from the WS posts as he scammed me. I took a risk on a sample from PHD1 and i received it in 4 days (holland to uk) .
Happy to put a picture up - also you seem to be forgetting the people that have posted reviews for his hash or snow white....
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yeah, we call these bait.
Put out some very small dosages (1-5g) to a reasonable price, let people smoke and photograph it, get some good reviews (that the stuff actually got there!) and then:
hook up the big shit, 28g, 56g, 112g, - all Finalize Early with outstanding, almost unreal prices (5€ for AAA stuff? come on) .
Did one of you guys see that the picture of the snow-white doesn't look at all like the pics he adverts? I'm not telling you right now the pics show some other ware, it's just that these look less trichome-fi lled and also pressed - I know it's standard to press the stuff by vacuumizing it, but the stuff you get doesn't look like the stuff in the picture, even if he's a legit seller, that's a minus for me. It's not that hard to put the weed in a ziplock and then put it into vacuum, leaving a pinch of cushion, but hey - who cares about destroyed trichomes, resulting in less potency, aight?
Yeah sure, people actually have received their samples, but if you take a look at his review, a real big percentage comes from FE with the comment (will update later) - Now I'm waiting for the people to update - whether they received it, or am going to say "something's foul" after waiting several days.
And this "48 more hours of cheap prices" looks also like he wanted to make as much "quick money" as possible, because people should buy now, not later. Later maybe the time when people see, that a lot of FEs actually don't get their stuff and won't order anymore (the cheap prices being a turnoff rather than an on in that moment)
In total, I'm not definitely saying that he's a scammer, but he acts like one. Even if he's a legit seller, he acted very rude (I'm politely now) not trying out to clarify the rumors right now, but rather telling me I'm talking BS and am not wanted in his business anymore.
I've been scammed once, won't happen again - forgive me if I'm more cautious then ever when buying illegal drugs online, investing 200$+ at a time
To be honest, if this shit was legit, i was about to order like 600$ becuase of the sweet deal, but even PHD1 doesn't want me to order, because I'm not 100% sure he's a real guy and not some scammer shithead.
Any comments about that?
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yeah, we call these bait.
Put out some very small dosages (1-5g) to a reasonable price, let people smoke and photograph it, get some good reviews (that the stuff actually got there!) and then:
hook up the big shit, 28g, 56g, 112g, - all Finalize Early with outstanding, almost unreal prices (5€ for AAA stuff? come on) .
Did one of you guys see that the picture of the snow-white doesn't look at all like the pics he adverts? I'm not telling you right now the pics show some other ware, it's just that these look less trichome-fi lled and also pressed - I know it's standard to press the stuff by vacuumizing it, but the stuff you get doesn't look like the stuff in the picture, even if he's a legit seller, that's a minus for me. It's not that hard to put the weed in a ziplock and then put it into vacuum, leaving a pinch of cushion, but hey - who cares about destroyed trichomes, resulting in less potency, aight?
Yeah sure, people actually have received their samples, but if you take a look at his review, a real big percentage comes from FE with the comment (will update later) - Now I'm waiting for the people to update - whether they received it, or am going to say "something's foul" after waiting several days.
And this "48 more hours of cheap prices" looks also like he wanted to make as much "quick money" as possible, because people should buy now, not later. Later maybe the time when people see, that a lot of FEs actually don't get their stuff and won't order anymore (the cheap prices being a turnoff rather than an on in that moment)
In total, I'm not definitely saying that he's a scammer, but he acts like one. Even if he's a legit seller, he acted very rude (I'm politely now) not trying out to clarify the rumors right now, but rather telling me I'm talking BS and am not wanted in his business anymore.
I've been scammed once, won't happen again - forgive me if I'm more cautious then ever when buying illegal drugs online, investing 200$+ at a time
To be honest, if this shit was legit, i was about to order like 600$ becuase of the sweet deal, but even PHD1 doesn't want me to order, because I'm not 100% sure he's a real guy and not some scammer shithead.
Any comments about that?
Nope what you say seems completely logical to me; I really hope it's not the case for all those people who FE'ed, after being scammed by WS i know the feeling, so i realllllly hope it works out fine for anyone who ordered.
As for the prices, quiet a few U.S. venders work with those prices, but not usually - from what i have seen so far - euro based venders.
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Let me start with, NEVER FE! This shit has to stop. There is a reason for escrow use it.
Now, I have purchased from PhD on BMR. He delivery was quick. I don't think I Fe'ed either. Product was good.
The problem is these vendor think that FE is normal way to do business and we are obnoxious, and paranoid. 90% of the vendors on BMR want FE from everyone. It becomes a normal way to do businees. People forget the warnings, and click there goes your money. The best one was a vendor who wouldn't release product until you FE'ed, and gave him a good review, which on BMR you can't edit. The best part is you click to FE, and the ssytem tells every way possible not to release early. The vendors act insulted when you don't. A true sign they are not in it for you, vs Christy Nugs, yelling at me for accidentally FE'ing, a big big difference in customer service.
They want to treat everyone as a potential scammers, and the hell with the stats. I say to hell with them. It's one thing to be new here, and have to put up with the bullshit.
Thumbsup is right to question this vendor's policy. Do I need to point out Thumbsup has point out scammers before (+1). This Fe thing is out of control. As Nomad stated there are other vendors use them. The reason their prices are higher, is honest costs more, and they aren't setting you up for a collective scam. When you get ripped, there will be plenty of suck asses to state they got their product. So?
Escrow is to protect us all. Vendors start using it. BTW if he is requesting FE from everyone he doesn't belong on the Honest Cannabis Vendor list. Please point out any other vendor forcing FE's on highly rated buyers. I take it most of us, have very good stats;)
Do NOT buy from PhD while he enforces this policy.
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yeah, we call these bait.
Put out some very small dosages (1-5g) to a reasonable price, let people smoke and photograph it, get some good reviews (that the stuff actually got there!) and then:
hook up the big shit, 28g, 56g, 112g, - all Finalize Early with outstanding, almost unreal prices (5€ for AAA stuff? come on) .
Did one of you guys see that the picture of the snow-white doesn't look at all like the pics he adverts? I'm not telling you right now the pics show some other ware, it's just that these look less trichome-fi lled and also pressed - I know it's standard to press the stuff by vacuumizing it, but the stuff you get doesn't look like the stuff in the picture, even if he's a legit seller, that's a minus for me. It's not that hard to put the weed in a ziplock and then put it into vacuum, leaving a pinch of cushion, but hey - who cares about destroyed trichomes, resulting in less potency, aight?
Yeah sure, people actually have received their samples, but if you take a look at his review, a real big percentage comes from FE with the comment (will update later) - Now I'm waiting for the people to update - whether they received it, or am going to say "something's foul" after waiting several days.
And this "48 more hours of cheap prices" looks also like he wanted to make as much "quick money" as possible, because people should buy now, not later. Later maybe the time when people see, that a lot of FEs actually don't get their stuff and won't order anymore (the cheap prices being a turnoff rather than an on in that moment)
In total, I'm not definitely saying that he's a scammer, but he acts like one. Even if he's a legit seller, he acted very rude (I'm politely now) not trying out to clarify the rumors right now, but rather telling me I'm talking BS and am not wanted in his business anymore.
I've been scammed once, won't happen again - forgive me if I'm more cautious then ever when buying illegal drugs online, investing 200$+ at a time
To be honest, if this shit was legit, i was about to order like 600$ becuase of the sweet deal, but even PHD1 doesn't want me to order, because I'm not 100% sure he's a real guy and not some scammer shithead.
Any comments about that?
Yep, Tony76.....
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Thumbsup is right to question this vendor's policy. Do I need to point out Thumbsup has point out scammers before (+1). This Fe thing is out of control. As Nomad stated there are other vendors use them. The reason their prices are higher, is honest costs more, and they aren't setting you up for a collective scam. When you get ripped, there will be plenty of suck asses to state they got their product. So?
thanks Uni. i am here for the Community.. and business. ;)
and this business looks nice, but TOO NICE.. :(
and i've learned after 10k worth of scams later.. that
IF IT LOOKS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE THEN FUCK OFF BECAUSE IT IS!
EVEN IF THEY END UP BEING LEGIT IN THE END.. AT LEAST YOU DIDN'T GET RIPPED.
you can do honest business in the future.
+1 to Uni for throwing their Thumbs Up!! :)
everyone be weary.. and destroy PHD.
/thumbs
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Hey I should by stupid, and think about the great sample I got. Shill for the vendor like I see going on. However I have been he long enough to stand the test of time.
It's about business, and things have to change. I see you and I agree. I have many friends here, we are just buyers. The vendors don't want our money enough.
I call for a boycott of all vendors who require FE of buyers who have earned good stats.
I need help weeding these bastards out of the cannabis list.
For some classic Uniwiz reading enjoyment, check this out -> http://fec33nz6mhzd54zj.onion/viewtopic.php?pid=12474#p12474
It's titled "why not to deal with uniwiz", and I agree 8)
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What is the reasonable amount of time to pass before the admins question whether these buyers will ever receive?
with it being Christmas and new years.. The time of year can be blamed for the packages not appearing until at least half way through january.
With that time being past they have made tens of thousands! and will just repeat the cycle again in a few weeks..
Are we expected to believe this person has a surplus amount of all those different drugs.
The only thing he's sent out is oil and weed= inexpensive..
They are now offering bulk Coke , MDMA, Heroin, Weed. at insanely cheap pricing, and lab tested of course.
They want people to FE for thousands even though they have only successfully dealt with a few grams of weed and some oil.
If people can't see these obvious signs and stupidly FE , I'd hate to say they deserve to be scammed, but they kinda do.
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See he,s got your custom ready and waiting thumbs .. lucky escape ?
everybody should report this fker get his account closed down........... as for all the folk who F.E d guess you learn the hard way but you learn
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What is the reasonable amount of time to pass before the admins question whether these buyers will ever receive?
with it being Christmas and new years.. The time of year can be blamed for the packages not appearing until at least half way through january.
With that time being past they have made tens of thousands! and will just repeat the cycle again in a few weeks..
Exactly what the scam appears to be. Holiday season means holiday-shipping... so everyone is going to be told "Oh, I got it out late and worse yet, it is the holidays so it is slow. If you don't have it in two weeks I'll give you the tracking number." while he fucks off with a fuckton of cash from a bunch of people too stupid to realize that his actions and selling-style stink of shit and scam.
Also uniwiz: That thread just reads as a reason not to deal with humbolt's finest, not as a reason to avoid you. I wonder if the new trick is to get a good rep on SR then move to the shitlands and scam people... then come back to SR and claim it wasn't really them doing it, maybe? 'course, I never touch BMR so if the PGP keys are the same, then it really just reads as a reason to avoid that vendor no matter what site it is on.
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AND BAM
This user has no active listings
Sooo.. what happened? :D
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Jigs up, Thumbs call it. 12/27/2012, time of death?
Well I feel much safer here with this group. At least we are honest.
yes the PGP key is the same. I have a hard time being rope into bullshit, by now you all know I react badly. I would say as bad as others that I calm down.
I have nothing bad to say about BMR's system (it's great software), just shady vendors who hold the place down. We have the same shit here, but a more vibrant community, who piss, and moan about everything :P
A scam will go on for months. The administration will have a hard time straightening things out by the time they figure it out, weeks pass. I don't see how they could react any faster, after all you are told repeatedly NOT to release early. What can the admin's really do? The best part is on BMR you have to click a message that tells you not to do it, and why. How can you hold the administration at fault? It's the vendors who makes this the norm who at fault, and I say FUCK THEM.
So even you if you have, or are a good vendor, we need to stop this tidal wave of demanding FE from buyers, NOW!
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least he only got 106 victims to F.E :o
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I have been saying this guy is a scam ever since I thought about ordering from him and looked at and ANALYZED his vendor page. I recommend everyone do this for ALL vendors. It's not easy to do when you are new, but after being here a few months, you know what to look for and the red flags this guy was waving shouted SCAM!!!!!
Reread Raucherpause's post and just know that a vendor needs to have 35 COMPLETED transactions before he can even think about requesting FE. And then even if he has 1000 transactions and requests FE, be VERY WEARY about doing it then, because you lose your ONLY PROTECTION on the road which is: Escrow.
It doesn't help that most of PHD1's pics are copied and cropped from google.
If anyone has ordered from him, ask for your tracking number and proof that he sent your pkg. If he can't provide that, request a refund----NOW.
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You live and learn I unfortunately ignored all the RED FAGS and lost out big time phd1 is no longer up and going after getting all the Christmas money needed. As soon as I had pressed FE I was locked out from the site as it went into stealth mode also he crapped on about giving me free bonus product if I re-ordered straight away. I knew then I was scammed. Plus no shipping charge I should have known better
It was my very 1st buy and people like this ruin the whole SR experience. However 30 bit coin is a hefty lesson and one that I will never re repeat as I will only deal with 2 of the top rated long term vendors and if that don't work then I will give up wasting good money.
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You live and learn I unfortunately ignored all the RED FAGS and lost out big time phd1 is no longer up and going after getting all the Christmas money needed. As soon as I had pressed FE I was locked out from the site as it went into stealth mode also he crapped on about giving me free bonus product if I re-ordered straight away. I knew then I was scammed. Plus no shipping charge I should have known better
It was my very 1st buy and people like this ruin the whole SR experience. However 30 bit coin is a hefty lesson and one that I will never re repeat as I will only deal with 2 of the top rated long term vendors and if that don't work then I will give up wasting good money.
:(
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You live and learn I unfortunately ignored all the RED FAGS and lost out big time phd1 is no longer up and going after getting all the Christmas money needed. As soon as I had pressed FE I was locked out from the site as it went into stealth mode also he crapped on about giving me free bonus product if I re-ordered straight away. I knew then I was scammed. Plus no shipping charge I should have known better
It was my very 1st buy and people like this ruin the whole SR experience. However 30 bit coin is a hefty lesson and one that I will never re repeat as I will only deal with 2 of the top rated long term vendors and if that don't work then I will give up wasting good money.
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Much too big for a first buy, and out of escrow. I'd like to tell you I'm better than that, except it would be untrue. Read more, and consider what we have to say.
The only warning sign was a new vendor requiring FE. I bought from PHD without a problem. He seemed ok to me. There have been others who lead me down the path as well. It was my fault for being stupid. Now I stay in escrow, and encourage others to do the same. Someone called me a self-appoint FE gestapo. Others say I believe in discrimination against vendors. I just want to educate those that haven't felt the sting of getting ripped. You wouldn't do this in a IRL drug deal. What makes you think it would work here? Sorry for your loss.
Edgar,
I love your sig. Pretty much to the point.
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Well, I guess I got burned. In 5+ years ordering powders and plants over the internet I've always been cautious and never once got scammed in 5-10k of fun, but I guess I got too arrogant and excited when I got back into the scene and found SR. I saw a vendor with 100% and tons of transactions, and just assumed that meant all was well. Lost a nice chunk of $ but we all live and learn. I'll certainly never let that happen again.
Withdrawal time for me =[ I was banking on that dope to get me to next month.
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Fucking scumbag phd :( hope he gets run down
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the best line was, when he personally accused me of talking bullshit when I questioned his honest-vendor style. My business wasn't allowed anymore. He didn't want to scam my dollars. so sad.
People, learn it. Never FE. If the vendor is around for one year you might try it, but don't yell if shit happens right in that month.